Home  Sign In  Search  Date Ideas  Join  Forums  Singles Groups  - 100% FREE Online Dating, Join Now!


11/11/2017 2:22:28 PMDetail compliments vs standard compliments 
Words77wisdom
Milwaukee, WI
29, joined Jun. 2016


1. You're pretty in pink. Sucks!

2. Your vibes tell so little but your eyes to me so much. I find it hard to look away because I want to understand( her name) complex and poetic, but I can dig it ( name) can you?




Meet singles at DateHookup.com, we're 100% free! Join now!

DateHookup.com - 100% Free Personals


11/11/2017 4:01:25 PMDetail compliments vs standard compliments 
korbyn
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (46,489)
Bat Cave, NC
98, joined Jun. 2013


(this post has been flagged as inappropriate, sorry.)

11/11/2017 4:39:25 PMDetail compliments vs standard compliments 
blu_raven
Fort Collins, CO
44, joined Oct. 2017


Um, Why you got to complicate it all?

11/11/2017 4:55:33 PMDetail compliments vs standard compliments 
korbyn
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (46,489)
Bat Cave, NC
98, joined Jun. 2013




11/11/2017 6:34:48 PMDetail compliments vs standard compliments 
Words77wisdom
Milwaukee, WI
29, joined Jun. 2016


Quote from blu_raven:
Um, why you got to complicate it all?


I'm poetic with my sayings. If you would like to learn I give you a shorter example?

11/11/2017 7:15:08 PMDetail compliments vs standard compliments 

lareveur
Over 2,000 Posts (2,909)
Clinton, TN
34, joined May. 2013


If we get married, and you don't write a 150+ page manifesto of how you worship my hot, divine a** in all my glorious lusciousness, then I will drop / divorce you and take you for half your $$$$$$.... because p*ssy spiked up again on the NASDAQ - ehrm, I mean NASD*ck lol.
Oh, and I like my books bound and HARD covered, b*tch. Paper will only cost you more paper.


11/11/2017 7:44:04 PMDetail compliments vs standard compliments 

packersbabe920
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (98,244)
Green Bay, WI
52, joined Jul. 2013




11/12/2017 2:59:14 AMDetail compliments vs standard compliments 
Words77wisdom
Milwaukee, WI
29, joined Jun. 2016


Quote from lareveur:
If we get married, and you don't write a 150+ page manifesto of how you worship my hot, divine a** in all my glorious lusciousness, then I will drop / divorce you and take you for half your $$$$$$.... because p*ssy spiked up again on the NASDAQ - ehrm, I mean NASD*ck lol.
Oh, and I like my books bound and HARD covered, b*tch. Paper will only cost you more paper.


Who you writing this to?

11/12/2017 5:16:24 AMDetail compliments vs standard compliments 
cavie59
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (20,203)
Enid, OK
58, joined Feb. 2010


Quote from Words77wisdom:
1. You're pretty in pink. Sucks!

2. Your vibes tell so little but your eyes to me so much. I find it hard to look away because I want to understand( her name) complex and poetic, but I can dig it ( name) can you?


Guess what??? MOST(not all) women do not want to hear either one if they do not find you attractive.

11/12/2017 5:29:16 AMDetail compliments vs standard compliments 
cupocheer
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (289,250)
Assumption, IL
69, joined May. 2010


Quote from Words77wisdom:
I'm poetic with my sayings. If you would like to learn I give you a shorter example?


Don't stunt your growth.

Your crotchity oath

May be your own undoing.

Pull up your pants

'Cause at first glance

Your whine is now boo-hooing.



Like that, OP?

11/12/2017 7:22:28 AMDetail compliments vs standard compliments 

easttowest72
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (13,863)
Bremen, GA
46, joined Sep. 2014


Yesterday while eating lunch a guy comes by and says that me and daughter must be sisters. I was 32 when she was born so you can definitely tell we arent sisters. I laughed and said no we are mother/daughter. The guy looks at my daughter and says "you must be the mom". My daughter rolled her eyes.

11/12/2017 7:25:04 AMDetail compliments vs standard compliments 
cupocheer
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (289,250)
Assumption, IL
69, joined May. 2010


So did you get Stevie Wonder's autograph?

11/12/2017 8:49:52 AMDetail compliments vs standard compliments 

mrfckinpetey
Over 4,000 Posts! (6,564)
Orlando, FL
98, joined Jun. 2014


Quote from cavie59:
Guess what??? MOST(not all) women do not want to hear either one if they do not find you attractive.


This.

I've used long winded paragraphs and "Hey Gorgeous". For me it's about 50/50 for who responds, and it never seems to matter what I say. When I tried this from a goofy looking friend's account on pof, practically nobody replied. When we made a fake male model account, pretty much everyone replied.

Women only pretend to care about what you say to them because they don't want to appear shallow. They are, just like the rest of us.

11/12/2017 10:49:57 AMDetail compliments vs standard compliments 

dr_i_got_answer
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (11,589)
Gwynn Oak, MD
51, joined Jun. 2014


Quote from Words77wisdom:
I'm poetic with my sayings. If you would like to learn I give you a shorter example?


Bullshit! You heard me compliment Lucky in your thread, thought it was some cool shit to say so you decided to make a thread figuring you'd be the recipient by tryna pass My Sweet Finesse off as your own.

Real women can tell if a man has natural finesse in his expressions or if HE'S TRYING to be something he's NOT bcuz he thinks it's gonna score him points.

That's no different than the spineless a** manginas (which you seem NOT to be ) that plays that "White Knight" bullshit like he gotta "Defend the Honor of Women and cuts his own d*ck off to support feminism.





Xwoman, myassisbleeding, testicleless?? You'll see them eventually.

11/12/2017 11:19:17 AMDetail compliments vs standard compliments 

dr_i_got_answer
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (11,589)
Gwynn Oak, MD
51, joined Jun. 2014


Quote from cupocheer:
Don't stunt your growth.

Your crotchity oath

May be your own undoing.

Pull up your pants

'Cause at first glance

Your whine is now boo-hooing.



Like that, OP?


No more this...

Don't listen to this old, mummified, CONDEMBED ASS, It a f**king zombie looking, cobwebbed 700yr old relic from the PAST.

This b*tch is so f**king biblically OLD, she was around before the 1st books of the Bible TOLD.

Never having anything, good, constructive to ADD, she just a nasty a** 600yr old, dried up maxi PAD.

Ugly, undesirable, stinky, unwanted and BITTER, mad, angry and upset that no man wants to HIT HER.

Bcuz if one ever did try he damn sure wouldn't SMILE once he finds out it's Whorbyn's fake a** female PROFILE!

Like that you raggedy old bag of shit!

11/12/2017 11:23:33 AMDetail compliments vs standard compliments 

dr_i_got_answer
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (11,589)
Gwynn Oak, MD
51, joined Jun. 2014


Quote from cuposhit:
So did you get Stevie Wonder's autograph?


Do you still have those pics you took with Abraham, Sampson, King David and Lucifer??

11/12/2017 12:02:03 PMDetail compliments vs standard compliments 

dr_i_got_answer
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (11,589)
Gwynn Oak, MD
51, joined Jun. 2014


Quote from mrfckinpetey:
This.

I've used long winded paragraphs and "Hey Gorgeous". For me it's about 50/50 for who responds, and it never seems to matter what I say. When I tried this from a goofy looking friend's account on pof, practically nobody replied. When we made a fake male model account, pretty much everyone replied.

Women only pretend to care about what you say to them because they don't want to appear shallow. They are, just like the rest of us.


This is absolutely true! Women are so shallow it's ridiculous. They had before an AVAILABLE "Good Man" who is a 6.5 or 7 on a scale of 1-10 and an UNAVAILABLE man who f**king 20 women and enjoying his freedom and he's a 12 on that same scale (according to them) they'd shit on the available"Good Man" just to compete with 20 other women he been up in to TRY and WIN

Now if that ain't shallow what is??

11/12/2017 1:20:37 PMDetail compliments vs standard compliments 

lovethelake17
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (35,685)
Henderson, NV
59, joined May. 2009


So. You're talking about giving a stranger compliments? You don't know her at all and you're tossing a compliment at her? I can't imagine it matters if it's detailed or not. Now, a comment once you do know her and base it on her because you know what you're talking about, that's a different story.

11/12/2017 2:13:00 PMDetail compliments vs standard compliments 
Words77wisdom
Milwaukee, WI
29, joined Jun. 2016


Quote from cavie59:
Guess what??? MOST(not all) women do not want to hear either one if they do not find you attractive.


Always have a plan... You just have to convince her to choose moments through your wooing



[Edited 11/12/2017 2:13:59 PM ]

11/12/2017 7:17:06 PMDetail compliments vs standard compliments 

lovethelake17
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (35,685)
Henderson, NV
59, joined May. 2009


Are you being manipulative? Genuinely sincere?

11/12/2017 8:49:17 PMDetail compliments vs standard compliments 
Words77wisdom
Milwaukee, WI
29, joined Jun. 2016


Quote from dr_i_got_answer:
Bullshit! You heard me compliment Lucky in your thread, thought it was some cool shit to say so you decided to make a thread figuring you'd be the recipient by tryna pass My Sweet Finesse off as your own.

Real women can tell if a man has natural finesse in his expressions or if HE'S TRYING to be something he's NOT bcuz he thinks it's gonna score him points.

That's no different than the spineless a** manginas (which you seem NOT to be ) that plays that "White Knight" bullshit like he gotta "Defend the Honor of Women and cuts his own d*ck off to support feminism.





Xwoman, myassisbleeding, testicleless?? You'll see them eventually.

Who is lucky? I like to spice up my own forums. You or nobody else gave me ideas.I will whether think before I meddle. But shout out on the compliment! It's plenty those cats out here ya dig

11/12/2017 11:59:47 PMDetail compliments vs standard compliments 

driver406
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (59,740)
Saint Paul, MN
65, joined Oct. 2009


Just say I LOVE YOU and you'll have her in the sack in ten minutes. That's the only reason you're with her right?

12/17/2017 12:23:04 AMDetail compliments vs standard compliments 

apokernut
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (21,020)
Elk Grove Village, IL
55, joined Jan. 2008




12/17/2017 4:30:07 AMDetail compliments vs standard compliments 

easttowest72
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (13,863)
Bremen, GA
46, joined Sep. 2014


Quote from driver406:
Just say I LOVE YOU and you'll have her in the sack in ten minutes. That's the only reason you're with her right?


Driver knows because his mom is always putting that sock on the door knob. He keeps having to sit in the car till her friend leaves.

12/17/2017 4:41:05 AMDetail compliments vs standard compliments 

bumblebee7
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (77,059)
Fort Payne, AL
62, joined Apr. 2011


Quote from Words77wisdom:
1. You're pretty in pink. Sucks!

2. Your vibes tell so little but your eyes to me so much. I find it hard to look away because I want to understand( her name) complex and poetic, but I can dig it ( name) can you?




Example number two,....is simply a con job. but with most women these con jobs work.

It sounds like to me, example number one was a more honest compliment...women seem to like honesty, as long as its in their favor.

However, bullshit con jobs work better than honesty...in most cases, maybe that's why enough men use them.

Either way....I don't give out compliments unless they are real and I was inspired, and I like to get compliments too.


Carry on.

12/17/2017 4:47:39 AMDetail compliments vs standard compliments 

bumblebee7
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (77,059)
Fort Payne, AL
62, joined Apr. 2011


Quote from driver406:
Just say I LOVE YOU and you'll have her in the sack in ten minutes. That's the only reason you're with her right?






That's not how it works...or at least in my scenario's. I never said things like that to get sex...don't want it that way.

Sex just seemed to happen at some point and whenever it did...it was them saying afterwards at some point that they loved me.

Should a man believe these words if this appears to be the normal course of action every time he has that first or second sex with them?

Well...we have two different examples of the same thing here....well, not exactly.

but it might back this up.

Men will say love to get sex.

Women will say love to get a relation....and more sex.

In either case...its doubtful that it really is real love.




12/17/2017 5:38:13 AMDetail compliments vs standard compliments 

easttowest72
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (13,863)
Bremen, GA
46, joined Sep. 2014


If it was that easy. All you guys wouldn't be alone.

12/17/2017 5:41:42 AMDetail compliments vs standard compliments 
_april67
Over 4,000 Posts! (5,062)
San Antonio, TX
50, joined Jun. 2017


Quote from Words77wisdom:
1. You're pretty in pink. Sucks!

2. Your vibes tell so little but your eyes to me so much. I find it hard to look away because I want to understand( her name) complex and poetic, but I can dig it ( name) can you?

#1 would be better than #2.

12/17/2017 5:49:36 AMDetail compliments vs standard compliments 
cavie59
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (20,203)
Enid, OK
58, joined Feb. 2010


Do not compliment a woman unless you want to risk offending her is some way. If you keep complimenting them you will become a victim of the #metoo movement, sooner or later.

12/17/2017 8:18:33 AMDetail compliments vs standard compliments 

xman379
Over 2,000 Posts (3,976)
Richmond, VA
38, joined Nov. 2015
online now!


Quote from cavie59:
Guess what??? MOST(not all) women do not want to hear either one if they do not find you attractive.


True

Quote from mrfckinpetey:

Women only pretend to care about what you say to them because they don't want to appear shallow. They are, just like the rest of us.


Generally true.

Quote from dr_i_got_answer:
Women are so shallow it's ridiculous. They had before an AVAILABLE "Good Man" who is a 6.5 or 7 on a scale of 1-10 and an UNAVAILABLE man who f**king 20 women and enjoying his freedom and he's a 12 on that same scale (according to them) they'd shit on the available"Good Man" just to compete with 20 other women he been up in to TRY and WIN

Now if that ain't shallow what is??


While generally true, I don't think women are any more shallow than men. For every woman that's rejecting a "good guy" for a more physically attractive "bad boy", there are as many (if not more) men rejecting "good girls" for more physically attractive "bad girls" (sluts).

Just imagine how many "good" women have been rejected by men because they were too fat or skinny, not pretty enough, dressed conservatively, etc.

12/17/2017 11:41:29 AMDetail compliments vs standard compliments 

sadlsticsienna
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (14,342)
New South Wales
Australia
25, joined Jan. 2016


Quote from xman379:
While generally true, I don't think women are any more shallow than men. For every woman that's rejecting a "good guy" for a more physically attractive "bad boy", there are as many (if not more) men rejecting "good girls" for more physically attractive "bad girls" (sluts).

Just imagine how many "good" women have been rejected by men because they were too fat or skinny, not pretty enough, dressed conservatively, etc.

Good guys/bad guys is such a myth.

What is more accurate is alphas and bettas. Bettas are just whiny men who like to whine and don't really have much luck with women because they're obsessed with blaming everyone else for their misfortune in dating. Classic bettas.
Alpha males don't whine and act like little bi tch boys when things don't go their way and don't blame everyone else for their dating misfortune.

Good guys and bad guys is a myth made up by whiny bettas males.

Men are definitely 100x more shallow than women, just for the pure and simple fact that they care 99.999% about sex, not the actual girl. Atleast the girls give a damn about the guys other than that. All the guys prospect in a girl is if she is fvckable and fvckable aspects and they pretty much focus on those. They don't care about her actual good qualities or personality that much. Only that she is tolerable.

12/17/2017 11:49:10 AMDetail compliments vs standard compliments 
cupocheer
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (289,250)
Assumption, IL
69, joined May. 2010


Quote from dr_i_got_answer:
Do you still have those pics you took with Abraham, Sampson, King David and Lucifer??


Did you really want me to tell all your friends about your cross dressing adventures?

12/17/2017 5:03:08 PMDetail compliments vs standard compliments 

apokernut
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (21,020)
Elk Grove Village, IL
55, joined Jan. 2008


The reason why most of you beta-b*tches (Dr. I Got No Clue included) is because you all try n date out of your league!!

12/17/2017 11:39:59 PMDetail compliments vs standard compliments 

driver406
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (59,740)
Saint Paul, MN
65, joined Oct. 2009


Complimenting a woman can easily be taken as sexual harassment these days.

12/18/2017 5:04:42 AMDetail compliments vs standard compliments 

inkedandsassyy
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (14,175)
Victoria
Australia
51, joined May. 2017


I have no interest in complements .. Just be able to have a decent conversation with me ...
Complements are cheap and really mean nothing

12/18/2017 6:10:22 AMDetail compliments vs standard compliments 
riteguyforu882
Lisle, IL
40, joined Oct. 2017


^^^^ is a bipolar liar. Folks, don't believe a thing she says.

12/18/2017 6:12:23 AMDetail compliments vs standard compliments 

sadlsticsienna
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (14,342)
New South Wales
Australia
25, joined Jan. 2016


I don't mind either way lol.

12/20/2017 7:20:27 AMDetail compliments vs standard compliments 
cupocheer
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (289,250)
Assumption, IL
69, joined May. 2010




12/20/2017 8:08:28 AMDetail compliments vs standard compliments 

xman379
Over 2,000 Posts (3,976)
Richmond, VA
38, joined Nov. 2015
online now!


Quote from sadlsticsienna:
Good guys/bad guys is such a myth.

What is more accurate is alphas and bettas. Bettas are just whiny men who like to whine and don't really have much luck with women because they're obsessed with blaming everyone else for their misfortune in dating. Classic bettas.
Alpha males don't whine and act like little bi tch boys when things don't go their way and don't blame everyone else for their dating misfortune.

Good guys and bad guys is a myth made up by whiny bettas males.

Men are definitely 100x more shallow than women, just for the pure and simple fact that they care 99.999% about sex, not the actual girl. Atleast the girls give a damn about the guys other than that. All the guys prospect in a girl is if she is fvckable and fvckable aspects and they pretty much focus on those. They don't care about her actual good qualities or personality that much. Only that she is tolerable.


There's SOME truth in this post, however if we're gonna say that the good guy/bad guy dichotomy is a myth, then the good person/bad person dichotomy must also be a myth and would mean that ALL people are bad, but divided into alphas and betas.

There ARE people, including men who want peace & happiness for others, as well as themselves and at the very least TRIES to avoid causing any sort of suffering for others. Such people, I would consider generally good.

I also disagree with your assertion that men are more shallow than women, simply because most men desire and enjoy sex, which we by the very nature of our creation are supposed to (it's WHY we feel PLEASURE when we have sex).

IF this were true, then women would have less to complain about, as gender roles would be reversed and women would be the dominant gender. The reason men are currently the dominant gender is because women are more shallow.

What I mean is, women throughout history have generally had little to no interest in labor or study, which is why most scientific and technological advancements and developments have been made by men (that's NOT to say that women haven't contributed anything in those fields).

Part of the reason for this is because even as far back as ancient times, men realized that women were generally physically inferior to men, thus women were relegated to lighter, easier tasks, while men tackled the more difficult tasks. This became tradition and at some point women were basically expected to just be pretty and submissive.

This changed of course with the rise of the feminist movement.

12/20/2017 9:33:16 AMDetail compliments vs standard compliments 
nymeria73
Over 1,000 Posts (1,846)
Milan
Italy
45, joined Jul. 2017


Quote from Words77wisdom:
1. You're pretty in pink. Sucks!

2. Your vibes tell so little but your eyes to me so much. I find it hard to look away because I want to understand( her name) complex and poetic, but I can dig it ( name) can you?


stick with the first option if this is all you've got.

12/20/2017 10:41:00 AMDetail compliments vs standard compliments 

mrfckinpetey
Over 4,000 Posts! (6,564)
Orlando, FL
98, joined Jun. 2014


Just be honest with some class. Don't drop the "Oh my God looking into your eyes is like looking at the ocean during a sunset", everybody and their dog knows right away what you're doing. And don't be honest without tact. No one wants to hear "You have a great ass" from some random stranger.

Also, if you have nothing naturally honest and classy to say to a woman, chances are you're either lonely, horny or both. Save yourself the trouble and find a hooker, everyone involved will be thankful for your decision.

12/20/2017 10:45:06 AMDetail compliments vs standard compliments 

driver406
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (59,740)
Saint Paul, MN
65, joined Oct. 2009


Complimenting a woman is considered sexual harassment these days and can get you fired. Only compliment the girlfriend and she'll still be offended you didn't compliment her HER way! You can win!

These are the she devils that feminism has created

12/20/2017 10:51:19 AMDetail compliments vs standard compliments 
nymeria73
Over 1,000 Posts (1,846)
Milan
Italy
45, joined Jul. 2017


Quote from mrfckinpetey:
Just be honest with some class. Don't drop the "Oh my God looking into your eyes is like looking at the ocean during a sunset", everybody and their dog knows right away what you're doing. And don't be honest without tact. No one wants to hear "You have a great ass" from some random stranger.

Also, if you have nothing naturally honest and classy to say to a woman, chances are you're either lonely, horny or both. Save yourself the trouble and find a hooker, everyone involved will be thankful for your decision.



Amen!

12/20/2017 11:58:54 AMDetail compliments vs standard compliments 

sadlsticsienna
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (14,342)
New South Wales
Australia
25, joined Jan. 2016


Quote from xman379:
There's SOME truth in this post, however if we're gonna say that the good guy/bad guy dichotomy is a myth, then the good person/bad person dichotomy must also be a myth and would mean that ALL people are bad, but divided into alphas and betas.

There ARE people, including men who want peace & happiness for others, as well as themselves and at the very least TRIES to avoid causing any sort of suffering for others. Such people, I would consider generally good.

I also disagree with your assertion that men are more shallow than women, simply because most men desire and enjoy sex, which we by the very nature of our creation are supposed to (it's WHY we feel PLEASURE when we have sex).

IF this were true, then women would have less to complain about, as gender roles would be reversed and women would be the dominant gender. The reason men are currently the dominant gender is because women are more shallow.

What I mean is, women throughout history have generally had little to no interest in labor or study, which is why most scientific and technological advancements and developments have been made by men (that's NOT to say that women haven't contributed anything in those fields).

Part of the reason for this is because even as far back as ancient times, men realized that women were generally physically inferior to men, thus women were relegated to lighter, easier tasks, while men tackled the more difficult tasks. This became tradition and at some point women were basically expected to just be pretty and submissive.

This changed of course with the rise of the feminist movement.

Well no, because some people are criminally inclined lol.

What I mean is "nice" guys, refer to any guy that is not them or the more successful guys as "bad". Bad can be a very subjective thing.

Obviously criminals and people who commit violent offences etc are objectively bad. To most people.

"Nice" guys are bas.tardizing the term "good and bad" to suit their subjective and emotional purposes.

It is not just that they desire sex, its their whole mentality. You know, women are a thing. Sex isn't just sex, another actual person is involved. Aka women. Guys usually see dating simply as a means to get sex. Its their driving motivation for dating and even in getting to know the woman. Desire for sex and possibly for her, if she is lucky lol.
They are not often interested in women for women, usually interested in women for the sex. Kinda like they see women as walking fleshlights.

Define dominant lol.
How does women's history relate to them being shallow, I don't get it lol. I mean obviously women have played a large part in mate selection but so have men. Don't see how its tips the scale to mean women are more shallow. I stand by what I said above about men being more shallow due to desire for sex. Be it biologically driven or not.

12/20/2017 12:06:23 PMDetail compliments vs standard compliments 
cupocheer
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (289,250)
Assumption, IL
69, joined May. 2010


Incredible....

12/20/2017 12:13:00 PMDetail compliments vs standard compliments 

xman379
Over 2,000 Posts (3,976)
Richmond, VA
38, joined Nov. 2015
online now!


Quote from sadlsticsienna:


Define dominant lol.
How does women's history relate to them being shallow, I don't get it lol. I mean obviously women have played a large part in mate selection but so have men. Don't see how its tips the scale to mean women are more shallow. I stand by what I said above about men being more shallow due to desire for sex. Be it biologically driven or not.


When ir say dominant, I mean men generally have a greater value in society than women an thus the injustice women complain about, such as not getting equal pay as one example.

Shallow in this context means "not caring about or involving serious or important things".

That's a direct quote from Webster's dictionary.

As I explained above, since even as far back as ancient times women were considered physically inferior to men, they haven't been expected to concern themselves serious or important things, such as construction, scientific research, politics, etc.

In some cultures there are exceptions, but generally, women were exoecr to leave such endeavors to men. Such being the case, men have lead the way in advancements amd developments in society amd civilization. Woman have made contributions, but have not lead the way.

Thus men feel deserve greater privileges than women and in most cases, rightfully so.

12/20/2017 12:24:30 PMDetail compliments vs standard compliments 

sadlsticsienna
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (14,342)
New South Wales
Australia
25, joined Jan. 2016


Quote from xman379:
When ir say dominant, I mean men generally have a greater value in society than women an thus the injustice women complain about, such as not getting equal pay as one example.

Shallow in this context means "not caring about or involving serious or important things".

That's a direct quote from Webster's dictionary.

As I explained above, since even as far back as ancient times women were considered physically inferior to men, they haven't been expected to concern themselves serious or important things, such as construction, scientific research, politics, etc.

In some cultures there are exceptions, but generally, women were exoecr to leave such endeavors to men. Such being the case, men have lead the way in advancements amd developments in society amd civilization. Woman have made contributions, but have not lead the way.

Thus men feel deserve greater privileges than women and in most cases, rightfully so.

Physical superiority is quite different to scientific.

Obviously women are physically insuperior but in a mental sense there is no reason why they would be scientifically insuperior. Unsure if females were not allowed to research or what. Or if they are just not interested due to cultural reasons. Complicated mater. Just technically mentally men really aren't scientifically superior.
Perhaps men made more scientific discoveries etc which they did but it doesn't actually men men technically are scientifically better and that women are somehow intellectually or cognitively incapable.

Women were actually held back from research throughout history, so systematic oppression might be part of why not many discoveries were made by women. Then culturally the view that women are not suited to it or not good at it perpetuated. Women were encouraged to do other things. Obviously if you are having other things pushed on you and its knowledge that women aren't good or suited at science, women won't do it. People don't do things they think will be too difficult for them or are not suited to them. If you're told constantly that if you try something you're going to fail, you probably won't try it.



[Edited 12/20/2017 12:25:13 PM ]

12/20/2017 12:42:37 PMDetail compliments vs standard compliments 

mrfckinpetey
Over 4,000 Posts! (6,564)
Orlando, FL
98, joined Jun. 2014


Quote from sadlsticsienna:
Physical superiority is quite different to scientific.

Obviously women are physically insuperior but in a mental sense there is no reason why they would be scientifically insuperior. Unsure if females were not allowed to research or what. Or if they are just not interested due to cultural reasons. Complicated mater. Just technically mentally men really aren't scientifically superior.
Perhaps men made more scientific discoveries etc which they did but it doesn't actually men men technically are scientifically better and that women are somehow intellectually or cognitively incapable.

Women were actually held back from research throughout history, so systematic oppression might be part of why not many discoveries were made by women. Then culturally the view that women are not suited to it or not good at it perpetuated. Women were encouraged to do other things. Obviously if you are having other things pushed on you and its knowledge that women aren't good or suited at science, women won't do it. People don't do things they think will be too difficult for them or are not suited to them. If you're told constantly that if you try something you're going to fail, you probably won't try it.


Women don't chase things like men do. We literally kill ourselves at times to impress women. You'll never compete with us until that playing field becomes even, and it never will.

12/20/2017 12:50:39 PMDetail compliments vs standard compliments 

xman379
Over 2,000 Posts (3,976)
Richmond, VA
38, joined Nov. 2015
online now!


Quote from sadlsticsienna:
Physical superiority is quite different to scientific.

Obviously women are physically insuperior but in a mental sense there is no reason why they would be scientifically insuperior. Unsure if females were not allowed to research or what. Or if they are just not interested due to cultural reasons. Complicated mater. Just technically mentally men really aren't scientifically superior.
Perhaps men made more scientific discoveries etc which they did but it doesn't actually men men technically are scientifically better and that women are somehow intellectually or cognitively incapable.

Women were actually held back from research throughout history, so systematic oppression might be part of why not many discoveries were made by women. Then culturally the view that women are not suited to it or not good at it perpetuated. Women were encouraged to do other things. Obviously if you are having other things pushed on you and its knowledge that women aren't good or suited at science, women won't do it. People don't do things they think will be too difficult for them or are not suited to them. If you're told constantly that if you try something you're going to fail, you probably won't try it.


Yes, there have been periods of time where women weren't allowed to do certain things. However, there have been periods of time where women ruled and STILL had little to no concern for things like science.

Even as far back as ancient times when we had women ruling in ancient Egypt.

I also mentioned that this became tradition and thus women simply playese their "roles" (typically as the submissive housewife).

12/20/2017 1:09:49 PMDetail compliments vs standard compliments 

mrfckinpetey
Over 4,000 Posts! (6,564)
Orlando, FL
98, joined Jun. 2014


We have examples of societies where women ruled.

Spoiler alert, they were all horrible.

12/20/2017 1:11:21 PMDetail compliments vs standard compliments 
nymeria73
Over 1,000 Posts (1,846)
Milan
Italy
45, joined Jul. 2017


Cleopatra wasn't bad.

12/20/2017 1:16:03 PMDetail compliments vs standard compliments 

mrfckinpetey
Over 4,000 Posts! (6,564)
Orlando, FL
98, joined Jun. 2014


Quote from nymeria73:
Cleopatra wasn't bad.


Oh yeah? What did she do?

She was known for her beauty, and seduced multiple rulers to get her way. Then killed herself.

She was the Kim Kardashian of ancient Egypt.

12/20/2017 1:22:05 PMDetail compliments vs standard compliments 
nymeria73
Over 1,000 Posts (1,846)
Milan
Italy
45, joined Jul. 2017


Petey, I expect more from you than confusing Hollywood movies with history.


And compared with her dim-witted, drunkard brother she did more.

12/20/2017 1:26:31 PMDetail compliments vs standard compliments 

mrfckinpetey
Over 4,000 Posts! (6,564)
Orlando, FL
98, joined Jun. 2014


Quote from nymeria73:
Petey, I expect more from you than confusing Hollywood movies with history.


And compared with her dim-witted, drunkard brother she did more.


Such as? I did a report on her in grade school, and even then realized that she was overrated.

To be fair, most rulers sucked, but all known female rulers had not one hero among them.

12/20/2017 1:29:33 PMDetail compliments vs standard compliments 
nymeria73
Over 1,000 Posts (1,846)
Milan
Italy
45, joined Jul. 2017


Nymeria was a great ruler.


I'm not saying she was a great ruler. Compare to her brother who was a man though she was. I agree that women are not cut very well for that role.

12/20/2017 1:39:17 PMDetail compliments vs standard compliments 

mrfckinpetey
Over 4,000 Posts! (6,564)
Orlando, FL
98, joined Jun. 2014


Quote from nymeria73:
Nymeria was a great ruler.


I'm not saying she was a great ruler. Compare to her brother who was a man though she was. I agree that women are not cut very well for that role.


In her defense, she was a better leader than her other female counterparts. Most female run societies are brutal af, usually cannibals.

12/20/2017 1:44:37 PMDetail compliments vs standard compliments 
nymeria73
Over 1,000 Posts (1,846)
Milan
Italy
45, joined Jul. 2017


That's another interesting thing. The myth that if women rules they would be less ruthless. I think not.

12/20/2017 1:52:56 PMDetail compliments vs standard compliments 
uncle_bulgaria
Over 7,500 Posts!! (7,524)
Houston, TX
50, joined Apr. 2017


That's another interesting thing. The myth that if women rules they would be less ruthless. I think not.

Boadicea, Mary Queen of Scots, Queen Elisabeth I and Margret Thatcher agree with you.



[Edited 12/20/2017 1:53:03 PM ]

12/20/2017 1:53:51 PMDetail compliments vs standard compliments 
nymeria73
Over 1,000 Posts (1,846)
Milan
Italy
45, joined Jul. 2017


And even Merkel, although she's more subtle about it. lol

12/20/2017 1:54:26 PMDetail compliments vs standard compliments 
uncle_bulgaria
Over 7,500 Posts!! (7,524)
Houston, TX
50, joined Apr. 2017


And even Merkel, although she's more subtle about it. lol

Still not sure It's a woman though...